Why dogs fight – or what is with sibling rivalry
Why Dogs Fight and How To Fix It
Let's examine why dogs fight in the first place. Sometimes I don't believe people think about some important considerations when they get that second, third or fourth dog.
Here's a list of why dogs fight.
- Competition for resources, including your attention
- Status-related conflicts - that would be housemates of the same sex fighting over social status
- An initial poor introduction to each other
- One dog having established territory and resenting the other as an intruder
- Redirected aggression - the dogs really want to go after the mailman or the dog next door, but are prevented from doing so and therefore turn on each other in frustration.
Remember, dogs are pursuing aggression, not because they are not "nice", but because aggression is:
- Working for them to get them something they think they need i.e. access to resources (food, space, articles of play and attention from you), status etc.
- Working to keep someone or something away they desperately want kept away i.e. a housemate who would otherwise strike first
- Simply a result of the dogs' chemical arousal level being very high and their having learned to get release by turning on their housemates.
So, what are the solutions to dogs fighting? Here are some to try, but before any of these exercises are attempted, be sure that all dogs have a solid foundation in their basic obedience: stay, sit, down, come and off. Make it clear to the dogs that they will both be generously rewarded for displaying socially compatible behavior. Ok, here's the list to address dog fighting:
- Ignoring each other- put them in sits or downs parallel to each other (not facing each other which is a conflict position) and reinforce/reward them for ignoring each other.
- Sharing your attention- or anyone else's attention - Put both dogs in a sit near you. Pet one, then feed that one. Then feed the other dog for tolerating your interactions with the first dog
- Remaining non-reactive with each other Put one dog in a sit or down stay. Pet the other dog and make a fuss over him. Reward the first dog for tolerance and remaining in place. Then reverse the exercise
- Train regularly on sits and downs with both dogs, again never putting them facing each other (a conflict position).
- Release the dogs and allow them to interact, praising them for good behavior.
These procedures for addressing dogs fighting, gives the dogs structure, explains your expectations of them in each other's presence, while at the same time manufacturing a pleasant experience around each other.
If you are having issues, try my suggestions. The first rule is " always control the situation/environment", that is, dogs on leashes and or muzzles (if required). All dogs and people should be safe in any training exercise.
Don't be afraid to ask for help. Consult with an experienced trainer/behaviorist that uses positive reinforcement methods and has the depth of training experience to understand how to address dog fighting. One size fits all dog training does not competently address issues like this.
This post has generated over 32 comments. I have answered many of these and more than likely the answer to your question(s) can be found in one of my comments. Please view all the comments/answers as there is terrific information there and quite possibly the answer to your question which you can receive very quickly.
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Hi, I have 3 dogs and they get along really well (2 female and 1 male) but one of the dogs hate other dogs (that she doesnt know) and fights any dog that it meets. We worry when we walk her that she will attack another dog. Why would she do this??
Could be a couple of things: lack of early socialization of this dog to non-family dogs, lack of on-going socialization of this dog to non-family dogs.
It could also be a display of territoriality by this dog towards other dogs based on you or whomever is walking the dog.
Best solution is to find a positive reinforcement trainer to help you help your dog with this issue. Do not continue to set the dog up to fail by putting the dog in this situation until you can get help with training.
I have two female poms who are sisters from the same litter. One is named Momo and the ohter is named Sneek. Every time I pick up Sneek and touch Momo, Sneek starts growling and barking which makes Momo bark and growl back. This also happend when I go to touch Momo Sneek will run up to her and start growling. It does get to the point where they fight and I separate them. Somethimes they do not fight but instead they will mount each other. I do not know if they are doing this for my attention or from dominence.
I have two pitbulls. They both just turned two. Our male is about a month older than our female. They are both intact. Today they got into a fight over a bone. They have never done this before and it was a real fight. now I can't get them to get along! Does anyone have any positive advice to give me? We love our dogs and just want to fix the problem. Thank you.
To both Maralee and Mill:
Leadership role on your part is the issue on both of these comments. If your dogs truly believed you and other family members were the leaders the "issue" between your dogs would be moot or very small. Also Maralee when you have an intact male and an non-spayed female hormones play a big part in how they view each other. But again, leadership, structure and training are essential to having dogs get along with each other
I have two female poms who are sisters from the same litter. One is named Momo and the ohter is named Sneek. Every time I pick up Sneek and touch Momo, Sneek starts growling and barking which makes Momo bark and growl back. This also happend when I go to touch Momo Sneek will run up to her and start growling. It does get to the point where they fight and I separate them. Somethimes they do not fight but instead they will mount each other. I do not know if they are doing this for my attention or for dominence. Can you please help?
I have two english bulldogs (one male and one female). They are from the same litter and have been raised together since they were puppies. They have started fighting, and the fights are real fights. They are actually hurting eachother extensively. They do not fight over food or toys so my only guess is they are fighting to establish dominance. Their fights are very difficult to break -up and i have been bitten breaking up the fights on many occasions. I need real help to control this situation, any advice?
Ashlee, once you have more than one dog you have a "pack". Leadership role on your part is even more critical when you have multiple dogs.
If the fights are not over food, toys or space then you should look at a couple of things:
1. medical issues - low thyroid can cause aggression in dogs --simple, relative inexpensive blood test.
2. ruling out medical - if they perceived you as their true leader and they are required to earn the things
that are important to them i.e. food, space, toys, your attention and affection then you are consistently
reinforcing your leadership role and their place in the pecking order which is LAST
3. Make sure you are managing their energy correctly with structured walks, if they only way they get exercise is playing then you have missed an opportunity to display leadership in their exercise
routine.
4. Training, training, training. Leadership, leadership, leadership
Hope this helps.
I moved 7 months ago, about 400 miles north with my 21 yr old son. My 6-1/2 yr old lab mix has always, and still does love children and the attention. She's always been a pussy cat. Today she and another dog, an American Bulldog, that have been friends for months had a loud, aggressive fight. The other dog is about 1-1/2 years old and got spade about a week ago. We noticed our dog's change in behavior 2 days after the other dog was spade. Does this have anything to do with the other dog getting fixed? Is it stress from the move? She loves living in a cooler area. I'm a little worried. Any chance you have an idea what's going on with her?
Carrie: this could be a number of things, but based on the limited info you gave me it could be because you dog sensed the other dog was weak(due to recently being spayed) and chose to go after her. It could also be increased territoriality over you. It could be a number of things but no matter what it is, LEADERSHIP is the beginning and ending point in fixing any behavioral issue.
I have two dogs, an 8 year old cocker spaniel and a 2 year old dalmation. They have both been very well behaved and have always got along. However about two weeks ago, they started fighting. Now it won't stop. What should we do? It really makes me nervous that they will start fighting when we are not home, leaving no one here to stop the fight.
Caroline: With the limited info I have, it could be a couple of things. Your older dog could be ill and your younger dogs smells/senses it and that is causing the young dog to attack the older dog.
If could also be not enough leadership role on your part and they feel they have to "duke it out" to see who is running the show.
But since this is relatively new check the health of your older dog.
Let me know what happens.
Hi Jim, I have two female dogs Yoshi (4 1/2) and Rem (6). They've been together since I got Yoshi at 5 months old. I just moved into a new, bigger house in June and since then the fights have broken out. They have gotten into fights before, but always when Yoshi would whine in pain, and Rem would pounce on her. In the last 3 months, they have fought about 6 times. Last night, I came home to find a huge gash on Rem's head. This is the first time I've been aware of a fight happening when no one was home.
I can't recognize who is the alpha between them, because they both illustrate dominant behavior towards one another. I did start getting back on their exercise routine but in the past few days, neglected it.
I hate to even consider this, but I'm thinking about finding a new home for Yoshi to prevent further damage to them both.
They both went through a lot of training when they were young, but I'd be lying if I said I keep them mentally stimulated these days.
Please, please, PLEASE give me some advice. I'm going to actively do what you mention in this article. But do you think that will prevent them from fighting even when I'm not home?
I really don't want to give away one of my best friends, but I don't know what else to do.
I have brother/sister Pitbull dogs who are three (they have been togther since birth). I also have a rottweiller who is 8 years old. Recently the pitbulls have begun to fight one another, when they get excited. These fights turn real and leave marks and injuries on one another. My husband and I have to break up the fights and then the dogs are fine with one another again (laying with and licking one another). The fights were sporadiac but have recently become more frequent (every other day). They never attempt to fight with my Rottweiller or anyone in the family, just each other. I have tried every piece of advise offered but nothing works.
Hello Jim,
I came across your site through google. You've provided some wonderful information, so thank you.
I have an additional question for you, though...
I own two labs, which I've had since they were puppies: a 3 year old male and a 2 year old female. Generally they're great friends. However, the other night the female attacked the male who had come up to us while I was petting her. I'm assuming that this had something to do with her wanting my attention.
They haven't fought since. I'm able to walk them side by side twice a day, and they're more than willing to play fetch with each other.
Yet, when they're in the house they will not pay attention to one another. Before they used to lay curled up together; now they plop down on opposite sides of the room. Before the would lick one another as they walked by; now they go out of their way to circle around one another. The female will also raise her hackles sometimes if the male comes near her.
I'm saddened by this and was hoping you might have some suggestions. I know they're dogs, and I can't force them to be friends--it's just that they were such great buddies before.
They have fought in the past (though it's been close to a year and a half) and have always managed to get over it...
Thanks so much for your time!
Amy
Hello,
I’m hoping you can help me or give me any suggestions. My name is Cynthia. I have 3 dogs...two female Queensland heelers a red one and a blue one and one male shitzu/maltese mix. I’ve been having problems with my blue female Queensland heeler
( she's about 5 months and not fixed yet) and my 2 year old male shitzu/maltese which is fixed. The female heeler has become really aggressive towards my male shitzu/maltese, they have gotten into several fights. I’ve had to pull my female heeler off my shitzu during the fight because she won’t let go of him and has him in her mouth and swings him like a rag doll. It’s been really scary each time and I just don’t know what to do. My husband and I don’t want to get rid of any of them, but we are very afraid that my heeler will end up killing my male shitzu/maltese. Is getting rid of one of them my only option? Or is there still hope? I just don’t understand what’s going on...we've had the blue heeler since she was a pup and was raised with my other 2 dogs and I haven’t had problems in until recently. They use to get along great. Can you please help me?
Thanks for your time,
Cynthia
Hi,
I have two male, desexed, 10month old Brittany Spaniels. They are constantly fighting with each other, over nothing and everything, I split them up, but as soon as they are together again, they start fighting again, and they don't listen t me when they are fighting. I'm at the end of my tether, any help?
I have 4 dogs. 1 male boxer, 2 female boxers, and a female Mixed Lab. One of my female boxers and the lab have been getting into big fight that are getting worse. the fights started after my other female boxer had a litter. before that they had live together for a year and a half. what should i do. i feel it might be the best thing to do is find another home for one if not both of them
I have a 3 year old yellow lab/malamute mix (Lucy.) We have recently taken in her sister from the same litter (Leah.) They know each other and were around each other a lot growing up. Her sister was never trained and only knows how to sit. She is constantly fighting with her sister. It starts out playful but will increasingly become more agressive. Lucy will try to seperate herself from Leah but Leah just will not stop. My husband and I try whatever we can to try and calm her down. I guess our issue is that we are not sure how to train her to listen to us and not to be so agressive all the time. Both dogs get plenty of excercise but Leah just will not stop! I am assuming she is just trying adjust to living with us and is desperate for all of our intention as she was the only dog in the other household, but it's getting to be too much! Hoping for some help! Thank you!
Kaleena:
Although I haven't met your dog, building structure in your home to provide your dogs with strong leadership is an important starting point.
Work on sits and downs regularly with both dogs and especially Lucy to give them both a sense of working for leadership rather than feeling responsible for it themselves.
While you are home, keep Lucy on a line or leash in your home to prevent fight incidents.
You will be surprised how much mileage you can get out of leashing your dog in the house.
Click and treat for neutral or positive behavior with Leah and time her out in her crate for inappropriate behavior.
Let me know how it goes
I have 2 female Alaskan Malamutes, one 7 years the other 4 1/2 years old. They have been together since puppyhood and have gotten along extremely well until last month. They had been playing for about 15 minutes when all of a sudden a fight broke out. They went at it for several minutes before my husband and I were able to break it up. They each had puncture wounds around their faces and ears. They avoided each other for a few days. The younger one made several attempts to play with the older one and finally after about 6 days they played a little bit with each other. 8 days after the first fight they got into it again while running in the woods. I was unable to see who started the fight either time. The older dog has always been more dominant and has had fights with our 3rd and oldest female that is now 13. We keep them separated. But our 7 year old has always gotten along with the younger one and they have played so well together since the first day they were together. I have kept the younger two separated since the last fight as it resulted in a visit to the vet for more puncture wounds that needed to be treated. They stay in crates that are right next to each other and they do not show aggression to one another but I have noticed some troublesome stares and body language. My husband and I have always walked them separately due to a problem with stray dogs in our area. This week we have started trying to walk with them together. The first attempt did not go well. They both went at each other. We had muzzles on them so prevented any injuries. We made them do a down stay until they both calmed down, then finished the walk. We are still attempting this and tried it without the muzzles today because they seem to make the dogs too frustrated. They did better but we kept enough distance so they could not get to each other should they decide to try. I'm worried that the dogs have decided to hate one another, for reasons I absolutely do not understand. They were such good friends for so long and my heart is broken to see them this way. I know it is not unusual for same sex Malamutes to fight but I also know they are pack oriented and wonder how they could work as teams pulling sleds, yet have so much trouble getting along? How can they get along so well for so long then turn on one another so quickly and vehemently? It kills me to think these two good buddies will have to be separated for the rest of their lives. I'm afraid I will have to implement the "boot camp" regiment along with what we have already been doing. Do you have any other suggestions that could help these two girls to get along again?
Appreciate your input,
Patti Hord
Patti:
Walks should be 30-45 min twice a day instead of your 15 minutes. And, they should be structured walks - by your side on the first and last thirds of the walk with free, unstructured time in the middle to sniff-pee-poop-etc. On your 2/3’s of the walk you exercise yourself, your dog and your leadership skills. The message to your dog is, “you still get to do your doggie thing but it’s on my schedule- not yours.”
There is more you can do. Re-institute your boot camp on a permanent basis. If you approach it correctly, there would be no need to feel as though you are penalizing yourself or the dogs with hard-lined structure that seems like an eternal boot camp. Just be consistent with your earn-to-learn program. Everything they get must be earned with a sit and down. I would also put leashes on them in the house while they are out together so that you can control them better. I would also consider using gentle leaders on walks and in the home for training sessions to begin your desensitization program doing the exercises I suggested in my blog on "sibling rivalry." This is of course barring no medical problems which should be ruled out before undergoing behavior modification of any kind.
Once both dogs are doing the exercises OK with gentle leaders and leashes on, then I would put muzzles on them for the exercises in the house - leashes attached with your goal of getting them off leash eventually - then off muzzles. You should be prepared for this to take some time. Keep them off all furniture for a while and reinstitute the couch privilege in about 3-4 weeks and use it as an exercise for training. Allow one dog on the couch after doing a sit and down followed by the command “Up!” Require the other dog to hold a down stay while you pet the one on the couch. Then reverse the dogs. It may take two people at first to work your dogs. After a while, you might be able to do it by yourself.
If they have neutral or positive interactions with each other, I would click/praise and treat for acceptable behavior. I would also do 2 minutes of sits and downs 3 x daily to give your dogs a sense of working for leadership rather than feeling responsible for it themselves. Keep me posted on your progress. Remember first rule, always keep dogs on leash so that they are controlled and no one gets hurt or injured.
My fiance and I have two 1yr old male pitbull, bulldog and austrailian shephard mixes (Tank and Scout) and one 2yr old male pitbull, bulldog, rotweiller, german shephard, chow mix (Chief). They all have the same mother just different litters a year apart. The younger two have been around the 2yr old since they were 4 weeks old.
They have always gotten along and played with one another without any incidents. Within the last several months they have been in 3 fights. Chief is included in every fight. Tank and Scout usually instigate though. They never bite necks they usually just lock their jaws or go for muzzles.
The last fight they had, I heard them play fighting then it changed to not so playful. By the time I went to back of house where they were, Tank had left small bite marks on Chief's face and muzzle and Chief had Tank pinned on the ground with just his front paws on him. After they saw me they both went back into their houses like nothing happened.
It scares me half to death when it happens. We're at the point that we chain them up to help prevent another fight from happening. We hate doing this and want to find a way to get them to get along so they don't have to be confined.
Will getting all 3 of them fixed eliminate any future aggression or can it not be guaranteed?
I have 2 dogs that came from the same litter both are female they both are spayed. We have to keep them seperated from each other or they fight. What would I beable to do so they would get along and not growl and fight with each other.
I have 2 golden retrievers and 2 shih tzus. I adopted my golden retriever at 2 years old, and she is known to be very aggressive when it comes to food. Shes goes into her aggressive mood and starts barking, bearing her ferocious teeth.
Just today, my 2 year old golden retriever attacked my 4 year old golden retriever. Usually this happens once a month, but then my dogs always end up loving each other again.
I KNOW that food triggers my 2year golden retriever's aggression, so I finds things to avoid this situation.
But I was just wondering if it is normal for multiple dogs in a household to get into fights.
Shelby: No, multiple dogs in a household should not be fighting. You need to start working on your golden's food aggression issues and you need to start putting more structure and leadership into your home with your dogs. Both dogs must understand that you run the show, not them.
Hi Jim,
I have a 1 year old German Shepherd/Huskie mix and a 1 1/2 year old Lab/Pointer mix that are both females. The lab mix has been the dominant in the house since we got the shepherd seven months ago and they both have gotten along great in that time. The shepherd has always been closer to me and the lab closer to my wife but recently, they both have been growling and fighting with each other.
After reading up on it, it seems the Shepherd is trying to become dominant so the the last few days my wife and I have been praising, petting and feeding the lab mix first and making the shepherd wait. Granted, it's only been three days but the shepherd seems to be upset by this and the fighting hasn't stopped yet. I figured it takes some time but I was wondering if there are any other tips we can work with on preventing them from fighting. When they do fight, we put a broom in between them to divert their attention and the shepherd runs away. We never hit them or grab them when they are fighting.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you for your time,
Jason
Hi Jim,
I have 2 female Rotts (litter mates) almost 2 years old now both intact. Since I got them one has always shown somewhat aggressive dominance over the other. Almost daily they get into 'fights'.... always initiated by one. If the other gets significant or sole attention, barks for more than a few seconds or gets too excitable while playing with any family member (e.g. jumping around or snapping to reach a toy) she fights her. They NEVER fight over food or possession of toys. All of their fights end in less than 5 seconds and look more like some form of correction...snarling and a few throaty barks always standing with her paw/s over the other's shoulder. She has never drawn blood or caused the other pain. Sometimes after the fight the 'victim' stares at her and sort of follows her around in a challenging way ...it either ends in growling and eventually the aggressor walks away or face/ear licking...usually the latter. During these fights she often blatantly ignore my commands to stop. They love water, especially being splashed so the whole bucket of water thing does not faze them in the least. I usually do not intervene in these fights and I know it’s strongly unadvisable but once or twice when fed up I have reached in and gently pulled the aggressor off. ..the fight just ends and the both act as though nothing happened… but I still don’t like to take the risk of parting dog fights. They also love to play-fight and this is often initiated by the 'victim'. Play-fights never turn sour and are clearly different from this sort of …dominance display? They also only fight when humans are around. I do not like these displays because someone is always in close proximity and may be bitten…even though they are extremely loving and gentle otherwise I feel that leaving them to work things out was clearly the wrong approach as after almost 2 years they are still doing this. These displays annoy the entire family and scare those who don’t know them well. Do you have any suggestions?
Amee and CeeJay are One year old and they are my STRESS RELIEVER,but Amee loves to fight. I was very instrumental in my city getting our first dog park...Amee and Ceejay had to leave because Amee's fighting. Help me!
We have 2 dogs - a male Jack Russel mix and a female mixed breed. The male (Sylvester) is about 10 years old and Bree (female) about 4yrs. They have been together for about 2.5 years and have always got on well. Recently they spent 2 weeks at a relatives house while we were on holiday. Just before they were due to come home Bree attacked Sylvester and had him in such a throat grip our relatives had to physically separate them. They came home and after a few days seemed to be back to their usual close relationship. However last night Bree attacked Sylvester again, shaking him quite viciously. We are not quite sure what triggered these attacks. The first one we think could have happened because the dogs got an awful ammout of attention even being fed together.Last night happened just after the neighbours dogs started barking and our dogs ran outside to see what was going on. Please can you help as I really don't want to have to give either of them away to sort out the situation.
I have a 9 month old intact male Beagle (he is scheduled to be neutered in the beginning of March). I have had him since he was a puppy and he has interacted with other dogs since he was little, usually with my family's dogs (dachshunds, a great pyreneese, mixed breeds) and he usually has no problems with them (he also is usually off his leash when he interacts with these dogs). However, whenever we walk him, he seems to have mixed feelings about the dogs he encounters. Usually if we let him approach another dog, they will each go up to each other and sniff a little bit and then he will snarl and growl and we pull him away. I don't know if he has a problem with dogs he is unfamiliar with or if it has something to do with him being on a leash. I read your article that said giving him slack will help ease the tension, do you think this should make a difference? I am planning on adopting a Golden Retriever but I am worried that he might not get along with the new dog. He hasn't ever had any problems with the other dogs he has been around, it is only when he is on walks that this occurs but it has made me nervous about taking him to a dog park because I am afraid that he might just not like dogs that he does not know. Is there a good way to introduce him to the Golden Retriever that will help them get off on the right foot?
Hello, i have 2 ridgeback X kelpies and they are from the same litter and they get on well. they have just turned 1 year and 1 month old. The two are both females and have the same amount of attention. But a couple of months ago they had there first real fight. this left scars and wounds on there ears, muzzle, all around there body. The only way we could break them up was buckets of water. The are generally very nice dogs and are very affectionate.
After this fight they have just had more and more. Over bones, food and just natrally just fighting over nothing. After a lot more fights they are just afraid of one another and cant go near each other with out growling.
The more looking one like a ridgeback (Lola) we think has more dominance over the more looking one like a kelpie (Millie). Tonight Lola was lying in this spot in the garden, wheni called her. She got up and ran over to me. Them Millie quickly ran over to that spot and lay down there. Lola saw that she was there and sprinted back and stood over the top of Millie. Millie was shaking in fear as she slowly hopped out of that spot. Lola was growling and was showing teeth. Millie walked away with her tail in between her hind legs. Lola lay down and it was okay. Millie also can jump very high jumping a 6 foot fence to excape. She has sort of grow out of that, but would that have anything to do with this fighting? Once she is out she wont come back for about roughly 3-5 hours. maybe even longer. when the 2 are accidently out they wont be back for 5-8 hours!
once they went out and came back in blood and cuts.
I dont know what to do anymoe and i dont want to sell any of them, i couldnt choose. they are both loving, friendly dogs to us.
Please, please help me. I am begging anyone for there help. I really need it.
Thanks alot Erin;animal_lover.
and they have not been desexed just to add
Erin: When dogs do not recognize you and other family members as their leaders in the household, dogs with strong personalities will try to decide between them who is running the show. Dogs
must have a leader, it is intrinsic in their sense of well being. Your comment about fighting over bones, food and space tells me that they are indeed fighting because of pecking order. You must
restructure your upside down relationship with your dogs and become a leader to them ONLY using positive reinforcement. You must understand what is important to your dogs: i.e. food, space,
articles of play and love and affection and YOU must take back control of those things with your dogs, at a minimum, giving you a sit to get these things from you. Giving these things to your dogs
must also be on YOUR timetable not theirs.
If your dogs are outside the majority of the time, there is not a lot of opportunity for you to practice leadership with your dogs. Their relationship will continue to deteriorate until you step up to
the plate and fix it. They can't fix it, you must fix it by becoming a good leader to your dogs.
Cara, I would first question why your dog is still intact. When a dog is intact ALL other dogs, including females view him differently because of the testosterone. Males view him as a threat and
so can females view him this way. When on leash dogs will many times react very differently to other dogs. A loosh leash is always advised and you need to praise him when he acts appropriately
with other dogs. If he were my dog, I would not take an intact male to a dog park. If you are going to get another dog I would get opposite sex for sure. Best way to introduce is on neutral territory
which means not in your house or your yard, on loose leash for both of them, praise for interacting appropriately
We have two dalmation mixes, brother and sister who have lived together their entire lives. Within the last 4 months our male underwent surgery for an obstruction (not sure if this is relavent but...). Within the last month they have been having small fights at night, enough to wake us but then it is over. The most recent despute was while we were away and our male had several cuts on his head/ear. They have never fought over food or resources before this. Not sure why this may be occuring.
Hello,
I have 2 dogs one is a 7 month old Jack russell called Pepsi and a westy called Honey who is 5 years.(both females)
Honey is a new arrival and we have had Pepsi since october 09 they get along really really well but on the odd occation they fight when one of them has a toy or one of them is in season. Pepsi likes to think she is a boy and mount Honey, Honey obviosly dislikes this and runs but Pepsi grabs hold of her back with her teeth and deosn't let go therefore they start fightting and Honey only defends herself whilst Pepsi does not let go of her neck we have tried pouring water over them, shouting at them, hitting one of them (but not too hard), putting a stick in the middle, but none of that works. they make awful nosies, & it seems like they want to kill eachother. how can we get them off eachother whilst they are fighting?? please help!?
Your question should not be, "how can we get them off each other whilst they are fighting?" rather, "How can we prevent fighting in the first place?"
1.The first rule in behavior modification is to physically manage and control the environment to prevent fights while you are working out the solution. Dogs are more compliant and responsible on leashes so while you are working on your solution, put them both on a leash to prevent fighting by using the leash to keep them separate from each other for the time being. Never leave them on leashes when you cannot supervise their activities.
2.Begin a program of "earn to learn" requiring them to earn everything by doing sits and downs. This includes their meals, toys, love and affection and the privilege of getting onto the sofa or bed. If they are big sofa dwellers, in the beginning, have them spend 50% of the time off the sofa while doing sits and down to earn the privilege to be on your sofa.
3.Engage your dogs in three, 2 minute training sessions of: come, sit and down to give them a sense of working for leadership rather than feeling responsible for it themselves. This is also designed to teach them to eventually respond to commands while in more intense play or fighting. If you do your homework this can eventually be accomplished.
4.Practice calling them out of different intensities of supervised play when they are not fighting. When they come to you, get a sit and a down, praise and treat AND send back to resume play.
5.Create opportunities for your dogs to make better decisions when faced with choices. That is, fight over a toy OR play nicely with separate toys. All this is controlled on leashes so that, in the event they do make a wrong decision (and it will happen) they can easily be pulled apart so that you can redirect to an appropriate behavior like sit, down or play with their Kong toy.
6.Teach good manners by showing: Load up two Kong toys one for each dog and give each dog 1 toy while keeping them at opposite ends of the sofa to play with their respective toy. Praise them for being good puppies.
7.Get your dogs spayed.
8.By the way, Pepsi does not think she's a boy, she is merely reinforcing a leader-follower relationship with Honey. Don't let these humping episodes get out of control and over whelm Honey. Having them on leash will allow you to keep this from escalating to a full blown fight.
Here is some more information on a puppy's development that reinforces why you need to get this under control sooner than later:
At 4.5 - 6.5 months of age puppies enter their protective-aggressive period where these tendencies/characteristics begin to develop based on learned behavior through interacting with his environment. If early protective signs (barking, growling, etc.) are encouraged or punished, over aggressiveness or fearfulness may develop as sexual maturity nears.
At 6.5 months + more forceful protective-aggressive behavior occurs. Mismanaged behavior problems become more difficult to correct.
At about 9 months problem behaviors appear to reinforce themselves, making correction a lot more difficult. Example: what was "growling and barking" could progress to lung and bite.
Look where your Jack Russell is in her protective-aggressive behavior development and start today on a good program. Find a good behaviorist or trainer with a positive (reward based) training program to help you better outline a program.
I sincerely hope this helps with your dog issue.
I have two heelers that are recovering from parvo. Theses pups are brotheres and have alwasy got along. When they came back home all they want to do is fight. I have to keep them seperated. The one who is more aggressive is Bandit. The other one is smokey. Smokey can not hear and bandit has always looked after him. What can I do about this? I don't want to keep them but if this keeps happening I will have to give one up. As soon as they see each other Bandit starts growling and showing teeth. Please help
Wendy:
My first question is are they both neutered, if not, get them neutered. The scent of testosterone changes the way your male dogs perceive each other. Secondly, it you are
interacting with your dogs from a leadership structure, then they will understand they are not running the show you are. Leadership has nothing to do with dominating
your dogs, leadership is letting your dogs understand, only using positive reinforcement, that you control everything - their food, their toys, their space, the house, the yard,.
their beds etc. Search on my posts for the word leadership and read those, then put that into place.
It appears your dogs think they are running the show.
Jim,
We have 3 Labrador Retrievers 2 males, 1 female who is the mother of the males.. Both males we have had since they were born,their ages are 11 months. Their miracle pups to us because their mom was dignosed with a false pregnancy and there were just the 2 pups in that litter and they survived alone outside for 12 hours without their mom. Recently both males have started fighting with each other to the point they have bitten each other terribly on their faces and bodies. We now have to seperate them, but when they see each other through the fence it seems that they miss each other. we"ve attempted putting them together and they started to growl at each other. The vet told us its because of their desire for dominance and their hormones. We love our dogs, we need advice and help.
Fidel: Since your vet spoke about hormones my assumption is your male dogs are still intact. That is a huge part of your problem. Testosterone changes the ways dogs perceive
each other and in your case they are perceiving each other as rivals. I would also assume that there is not a lot of
structure or leadership going on in your relationship with your dogs and since you are not positioning yourself as leader your dogs are fighting to see which one of them will
be the leader. You need to get your dogs neutered and you need to have a good dog trainer who only uses positive reinforcement to help you structure life differently with your
dogs.
Jim.
Great site!
We have a 8 1/2 year old neutered Wire Fox Terrier. 4 years ago we got a 6-8 weeks old English coonhound puppy from the local high kill shelter. They got along famously until she entered her 'teenage angst' phase and they started have spats. We made some changes and instituted 6 miles of walks a day. We have a large fenced in area for them to play also. The walks seemed to help but did not eliminate the fights. I suffered an injury that has made those daily walks not possible for some time. I am hoping to get back to doing them.
The problem we believe is that the Wire Fox Terrier is a bossy guy when it comes to the now 4 year old coonhound. SHe does not like to be bossed...and explodes all over him. They don't fight around us..they wait until they are outside doing their business in the back yard or lounging on the porch. We do have a crate for the coonhound, where she is inside the house. The Fox Terrier has a bed he goes to in another room.
They both get TONS of attention, both together and separately from us so I am not sure that is the problem.
The fights are real. They result in wounds that need medical attention on the Foxie, but never the Coonhound. He is just not a fighter...he is only defending himself while she chews on him. One time we had to have a lower eyelid reattached, numerous puncture wounds in the skull and muzzle and the latest, a wound inside the Foxie's ear that resulted in a LOT of blood that drained not only from the mouth but the ear as well. She also seems to be trying to go for his eyes...he always has puncture wounds around his eyes.
This last one, we had trouble breaking up....and it really frightened us. We are fully prepared at this point to rehome the Coonhound. She cannot live in a muzzle...and it may be another 6 months or 6 days...we don't know, before the next fight.
Would you look to rehome a dog that is that unpredictable and capable of great damage or is it worth spending the next 4-5 years keeping them separated all the time?
Wendy: The short of it is , yes re-home the coonhound, UNLESS you and your family would be willing to do the work on leadership and structure that is needed to have your dogs get along. They
are being allowed to have way too many instances to have these fights so each time they fight, it is a learned behavior for both. This will take work and diligence and it can more than likely be changed
if you are willing to do the work. If that is not something you feel you can OR want to do, then re-home the coonhound ASAP before these continued dog fights make her unadoptable.
Hi Jim,
I have a 4 year old neutered male Dachsund and two other female dogs both spayed. Recently my neighbor brought home a female puppy, she is 12 weeks old. Today my Dachsund forced his way through our adjoining fence into their yard and attacked the puppy. He had the puppy in his mouth and he was shaking her. At home he is a very sweet, loving, and obedient dog. He is not aggressive towards our other dogs and in fact one of my other dogs, the oldest female is the most aggressive of the three, putting the other two in check from time to time. About two weeks ago, I brought the puppy into our home and introduced her to my 3 dogs. All were very good with her, they sniffed her and she was very submissive to them. He was wary of her but showed no aggression at all. I'm not sure why he attacked her and was wondering if you could give me some insight. It also seems that lately when I walk him he is more aggressive toward strange dogs. He never used to do this until recently, I don't understand what has happened and why. The only thing that comes to mind is about a year ago or so he was off a leash and another large dog was trying to play with him. He was petrified, running away, and peeing himself. The other dog was not being aggressive, but the size difference scared him really bad. Could this have led him to become aggressive towards dogs outside of his pack? He sought this puppy out and forced his way into their yard, is he being territorial? I'm so confused, please help!
Carina: It is impossible for me to diagnose/fix your problem without seeing your dog (s). It could be territoriality combined with other factors. There is just too much I do not know. I would, however,
not ignore this issue as it will most probably get worse. You need to have a professional, positive reinforcement trainer come work with you and your dog to solve this.
Jim:
I have two female boxer/pit mixes. They are sisters from the same litter, a year and a half old. (Lola and Millie) They have always been best friends, never had a problem, always cuddling and playing with each other. One of my dogs (lola) just went through surgery for a tooth extraction and a wart removal this past Sunday. Ever since she got home, my other dog (Millie) has been violently attacking her. Millie has always been very submissive and never violent or aggressive. It has been 3 days since the surgery, and we can barely even keep them in the same room without a fight. Have you ever heard of this, and what do I do??
Jennifer:
All dogs have prey drive. That includes activities like stalk, chase, grab-bite, shake and kill. Typically domesticated dogs do not prey on and attack other domesticated dogs even though they may have high prey drives. Dogs living in the same household that have always been friendly could wind up fighting with each other when one of the dogs sees or senses a different sense of being in the other dog. Perhaps after returning from a surgical procedure the other dog might appear “wounded.” This is where “predatory drift” can occur – that is to say that the dog drifts or “shifts” it’s prey drive normally reserved for animals outside its own species to another dog.
What to do? Control your home environment until you can work on reprogramming the aggressive dog. Keep Millie and/or Lola on leashes in the house under your strict supervision. Do not set Millie up to fail by accidentaly or purposely presenting her with an opportunity to become reactive. This will require an extensive evaluation of your home life structure with your dogs and their obedience training. Once that is accomplished, behavior modification exercises need to be put into place to reprogram Millie’s view of Lola. Locate a good positive reinforcement trainer to help you with this task.
Good luck and let me know how it turns out.